The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright

Last off all / to prove that there were Archflamines / and withal to lay open my unskilfulness in stories, it is alleged that there were such in England. But how doth he show my unskilfulness / which showeth nothing wherein I prevented him not? I knew well that there were that said so / I alleged them: but with what truth / and fidelity / that is the question. To deciding whereof beside reproaches / what is brought? he will say peradventure M. Fox. If thou turn gentle reader the other side off the leaf / whereout the sentence is taken: thou shalt understand manifest treachery. for M. Fox disputeth against this opinion / and useth divers reasons which confute flatly this fable / off the conversion off England by Eleutherius Ambassadors: and setteth down that sentence by way off concession / rather carried against his will by certain stories in this untruth / then led by his own Judgement. Note also that the D. is directly here for Harding / against the Bishop off Sarum / both in this fable / off Eleutherius / and the Archflamines. For touching archflamines he saith / it is a mere fantasy, grounded upon an unsavoury fable off Clements, and Anacletus: and that nether the name Archflamines, ¹or protaflamines, is to be found in any ancient allowed writer. and touching the other fable of Eleutherius / objected by Harding as now by the D. he answereth / it is untrue: adding reasons there to be seen. And that this fable whereof Geffrey Monumetensis ²was author / may better appear: having a little treatise thereof sent me with M. Foxes leaf / well written in that behalf / that in the profit the church shall receive / the author also may have some fruit off his travail / I will here set it down.

Last off all / to proue that there were Archflamines / and withall to lay open my vnskilfullnes in stories, yt is alledged that there were such in England. But how doth he shew my vnskilfulnes / which sheweth nothing wherin I preuented hym not? I knew well that there were that saied so / I alledged them: but with what truth / and fidelitie / that ys the question. To deciding wheroff besyde reproches / what ys browght? he will say paraduenture M. Fox. Yf thow turne gentle reader thother side off the leafe / wherowt the sentence ys taken: thow shalt vnderstand manifest treacherie. for M. Fox disputeth against this opinion / and vseth diuers reasons which confute flatly this fable / off the conuersion off England by Eleutherius Embassadours: and setteth downe that sentence by way off concession / rather caried agaynst his will by certein stories in this vntruth / then led by his owne Iudgemente. Note also that the D. ys directly here for Harding / agaynst the Bishop off Sarum / both in this fable / off Eleutherius / and the Archflamines. For towching archflamines he saith / yt ys a mere phantasie, grounded vpon an vnsauorie fable off Clementes, and Anacletus: and that nether the name Archflamines,