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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Furthermore if Eusebius had spoken so unproperly: he is yet to be charged with further confusion. For he assigneth him a parish / which is a territory belonging unto a simple bishop: and not a province / which is an archbishops kingdom. If therefore he confounded archbishop with bishop: at least he should have spoken ⟨p. CCCCLXXIX⟩distinctly off their charges. Last off all / how idle a pharisee this is off Denis's archbishopric / may be considered forasmuch as Euseb. in both places by me alleged / calleth him the first bishop off Athens. And that he was first in those parts may easily be seen / for that it was the wisdom of the holy ghost / to settle first the Gospel in the mother towns / and head places of dominion•: that from thence it might have passage to places round about / as the practise in the Acts doth declare. Now if he were the first bishop chosen after the conversion of Athens: by the D. saying he was made Archbishop / before there were any other bishops to oversee. But forasmuch as the archbishop is in the number of those which hang of other / and that there could be no archbishop where there were no bishops / nor bishop where there were no churches round about: it is brought to pass / that there being no bishops in those parts / at that time when Saint Paul ordained Denis bishop: he can by no means be thought to have ordained him archbishop. And that which I have said in this point against the archbishopric off Denis (the last only excepted) is to be understanded off James / Titus / Timothy / &c.
Furthermore if Eusebius had spoken so vnproperly: he is yet to be charged with further confusion. For he assigneth hym a parish / which is a territorie belonging vnto a simple bishop: and not a prouince / which is an archbishops kingdom. Yf therfore he confounded archbishop with bishop: at least he should haue spoken ⟨p. CCCCLXXIX⟩dinstinetly off their charges. Last off all / how idle a pharisie this is off Denises archbishoprick / may be considered forasmuch as Euseb. in both places by me alledged / calleth him the first bishop off Athenes. And that he was first in those partes may easely be seene / for that it was the wisdome of the holy gost / to settle first the Gospell in the mother townes / and head places of dominion•: that from thence it might haue passadge to places rownd about / as the practise in the Actes doth declare. Now if he were the first bishop chosen after the conuersion of Athenes: by the D. saying he was made Archbishop / before there were any other bishops to ouersee. But forasmuch as tharchbishop is in the nombre of those vvhich hang of other / and that there could be no archbishop vvhere there were no bishops / nor bishop where there were no churches rownd about: it is browght to passe / that there being no bishops in those partes / at that time vvhen Saint Paul ordeined Denys bishop: he can by no meanes be thowght to haue ordeined him archbishop. And that vvhich I haue saied in this point against the archbishoprick off Denis (the last onely excepted) is to be vnderstanded off Iames / Titus / Timothe / &c.