A18080:935
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
The rest of this divis. is answered before: for the next / let it 1be judged how you have overthrown that alleged / touching Timothy / and Tite being Evangelists. I will also refer to the readers judgement / what unlearnedness it is to confute authority by better authority: and in what place the D. vvill have us receive mens authority / when he vvill not have them controlled by other men. How by this means he that hath the first place to speak / may stop the mouth off all that follow: forasmuch as it shall be unlawful for them / ether out off the authors which the first speaker alleged / or any other / to oppose a contrary sentence. How also this being so unlearnedly done off me / is notwithstanding learned in him: which hath used it divers times. I leave also to be judged / how to the purpose he hath alleged thes examples off Justice, and chief Justice, seeing I helped him with this kind off division: and it might have easily appeared that my argument was / that forsomuch as the Scholiast called them simply bishop: therefore it could not be thought / that he esteemed them archbishops / which is opposite member in this division. Last of all how absurdly is it said / that he which calleth an archbishop a bishop / speaketh properly? When he that hath little more then learned his Grammar / knoweth that it is a Trope / wherein the general is taken for the special: which is contrary to proper speech.2
The rest of this diuis. is answered before: for the next / let yt 1be iudged how yow haue ouerthrowne that alledged / towching Timothe / and Tite being Euangelistes. I will also refer to the readers iudgement / what vnlearnednes yt ys to confute autoritie by better autoritie: and in vvhat place the D. vvill haue vs receiue mens autoritie / vvhen he vvill not haue them controlled by other men. How by this meanes he that hath the first place to speake / may stop the mouth off all that follow: forasmuch as yt shall be vnlawfull for them / ether owt off the autors vvhich the first speaker alledged / or any other / to oppose a contrary sentence. How also this being so vnlearnedly doon off me / is notwithstanding learned in him: which hath vsed it diuers times. I leaue also to be iudged / how to the pourpose he hath alledged thes examples off Iustice, and cheif Iustice, seing I helped him with this kinde off diuision: and yt might haue easely appeared that my argument vvas / that forsomuch as the Scoliast called them simply bishope: therfore yt could not be thowght / that he esteemed them archbishops / vvhich is opposite mēber in this diuision. Last of all how absurdly ys it saied / that he which calleth an archbishop a bishop / speaketh properly? Whē he that hath litle more then learned his Grāmer / knoweth that it is a Trope / vvherin the generall is taken for the speciall: which is contrary to proper speach.