A18080:922
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
Against the reason I bring to prove / that there were no Archflamines / is answered that the matter is not great it standeth 1upon the life off the Archbishop. For if it be found a Canterbury tale / off Saint Peters placing off Archbishops in place off Archflamynes: being not off the Apostles planting / We may both bolder / and easelier pull him up by the roots. Then he saith / an argument off humane authority negative, is not good. Wherein I refer my self to that said before in that behalf / and leave it to every mans consideration / what likelihood there is that there were such / when Tully dividing / and distinguishing the offices occupied about their Gods / maketh no mention off that / supposed to have been chief. Where he asketh why the Grecians might not call him Archflamen, whom Tully called Flamen Dialis: I am content / let that be trial. And if he can show me ether Plutarch / or Dionysius Halicarnassus / or any other good greek / or latin ancient writer / that there was any such office: I will move no further disputation in this matter. Therefore I would gladly know of you / what pr•ph••e […] they be which ⟨p. CCCCLXXII⟩make mention off thes Archflamines. For the fountains from which this report cometh / are not ecclesiastical / but papistical.
Agaynste the reason I bring to proue / that there were no Archflamines / ys answered that the matter ys not great yt standeth 1vppon the lyfe off the Archbishop. For yf yt be found a Canturberye tale / off Saint Peters placyng off Archbishops in place off Archflamynes: being not off the Apostles planting / We may both boldlyer / and easelier pull hym vp by the rootes. Then he saith / an argument off humane autorytye negatyue, ys not good. Wherin I refer my selfe to that sayed before in that behalf / and leaue yt to euery mannes consyderation / what lykelyhood there ys that there were suche / when Tullye dyuiding / and distinguyshing the offyces occupied about their Gods / maketh no mention off that / supposed to haue bene cheyf. Where he asketh why the Grecians might not call him Archflamin, whom Tullie called Flamen Dialis: I am content / let that be triall. And yf he can shew me ether Plutarch / or Dyonisyus Halicarnaseus / or any other good greek / or latin auncient wryter / that there was any such office: I will moue no further disputation in this matter. Therfore I woulde gladly know of yow / what prphe they be which