The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright

To prove that the name off archbishop was not before the ¹council off Nice / nor within three hundred years after the ascension off our Saviour / I show that there is no mention off him in Theophilus / Ignatius / Clemens Alexandrinus / Justine / Martyr / Ireneus / Tertullian / Origen / Cyprian / in the histories out off which Eusebius gathereth his story / nor in Eusebius / nor (in a word) in no allowed writer / nether greek nor latin / within that space. The D. asketh whether the council off Nice, Antioch, Epiphanius, &c. be not as good? all which are both later writers then those I alleged: and after the 300. years before assigned. So that to prove the antiquity off the name off Archbishop / and Metropolitan / he saith in effect / it is all one to allege the stories / and writers which came after / as those which went before: and to prove that thes names were with in 300. years after Christ / he allegeth stories / and other writers which testify thes titles to have been after 300. years: which how absurd it is / all men understand. And what likelihood off truth it hath / that thes names were within 300. years / and odd / when as not one only writer having so often occasion to speak off them / doth once name them: it may be considered partly of that the bishop writeth. For as he asked Harding / was there no man in the world for the space off 600. years, able to express the name off universal ²bishop: So I ask the D. was there none in the world by the space off 300. years / and odd / able to express the metropolitans name? no man for the space almost of 400. years / able to express the archbishops name? partly also I leave it to be considered / off that I have said before.

To proue that the name off archbishop was not before the ¹councell off Nice / nor within three hundred yeares after the ascension off our Sauiour / I shewe that there is no mention off him in Theophilus / Ignatius / Clemens Alexandrinus / Iustine / Martyr / Ireneus / Tertullian / Origine / Cyprian / in the histories owt off which Eusebius gathereth his storie / nor in Eusebius / nor (in a word) in no alowed writer / nether greeke nor latin / within that space. The D. asketh whether the councell off Nice, Antioche, Epiphanius, &c. be not as good? all which are bothe later writers then those I alledged: and after the 300. years before assigned. So that to proue the antiquitie off the name off Archbishop / and Metrapolitane / he saith in effect / yt is all one to alledge the stories / and writers which came after / as those which wente before: and to proue that thes names were with in 300. yeares after Christ / he alledgeth stories / and other writers which testyfie thes titles to haue bene after 300. yeares: which how absurde yt ys / all men vnderstand. And what likelihoode off trwth yt hath / that thes names were within 300. yeares / and od / when as not one onely writer hauing so often occasion to speake off them / doth once name them: it may be considered partly of that the bishop writeth. For as he asked Harding / vvas there no man in the vvorld for the space off 600. yeares, hable to expresse the name off vniuersall