The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright

Now for this great show the A. bringeth into the stage / they are scarce worth the looking on: they shall have therefore a short answer. their authority shall be considered after / being here altogether out off place / and contrary to the little off his chapter / and (according to the old custom off repetitions) propounded after: I here therefore deal only with the names. And first for that off Metropolitan: it is showed that it is not the same in signification with the Archbishops: it is confessed that it was in the time off the council off Nice / before which it can not be showed / in any allowed writer. for where the D. citeth the Centuries / which call Cyprian which was before it / Metropolitan: they do so call him according to the custom of times which followed / as is before proved out off their own testimony. As for the name of Primate / the first tidings of it is a great while after 400. years: which is without our compass. for the name off an Archbishop / the first mention alleged off him in any council / is near upon 500. years.

Nowe for this great shewe the A. bringeth into the stage / they are scarce worth the looking on: they shall haue therfore a shorte answer. their autoritie shall be cōsidered after / being here altogether owte off place / and contrary to the litle off his chapter / and (according to the oulde coustome off repetitions) propounded after: I here therfore deale onely with the names. And firste for that off Metrapolitan: yt is shewed that it is not the same in signification with the Archbishops: yt is confessed that it was in the time off the councell off Nice / before which yt can not be shewed / in any allowed writer. for where the D. citeth the Centuries / which call Cyprian vvhich was before it / Metrapolitan: they doo so call him according to the coustome of times vvhich folowed / as is before proued owt off their owne testimonie. As for the name of Primat / the firste tydinges of it is a great while after 400. yeares: vvhich is vvithout our cōpas. for the name off an Archbishop / the firste mention alledged off him in any councell / is nere vppon 500. years.

Where it is said / the name of an Archbishop is attributed unto Athanasius: he should have told who doth attribute that name / and then he had had his answer. For nether in his works / nor in any ancient writer that speaketh of him / is it found. Indeed a Lou nist doth so call him: but he hath no credit in this cause. Where he allegeth that the name of Archbishop is found in the 2. Apology of Athanasius: