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The rest of the second reply of Thomas Cartvurihgt [sic]The rest of the second replie of Thomas Cartvurihgt [sic]
The rest of the second reply of Thomas Cartvurihgt [sic]: against Master Doctor Vuhitgifts second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe rest of the second replie of Thomas Cartvurihgt [sic]: agaynst Master Doctor Vuhitgifts second ansvuer, touching the Church discipline
Basel: printed by Thomas Guarinus, 1577
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Having thus spoken, of this order of Elders, in the Apostles times, and before: I will now return to that I promised, of the practise of the churches after the Apostles times, to see if this order of Elders can find any more favour of them, then of the Answerer. Amongest which, that of Tertullian, 1before alleged of me, is most clear. Nether can the D. escape with this, that the college was likely to be of Ministers of the word &c. considering that it is uncredible, that all the churches, whose defence Tertullian taketh upon him, and whose usage he describeth, had such a college. Then, that of Cyprian cometh to be considered, which noteth a piece of ⟨p. 42⟩the office of these Elders, aby dividing the communion bread into equal portions and carrying it (for the assistance of the Bishop) in little baskets or trays: where by placing their office in this assisting the Minister, he doeth manifestly shut them out from the ministering of the Sacrament: especially seeing Cyprian in that place, noteth the honour of that office, to consist in that they had by reason of it, aces to this assistance of the Pastor, in so great mysteries. which should have been fondly put, if they might also by virtue of that office, them selves have ministered the Sacraments, as well as the Bishop: whereof also it cometh, that in another bplace, he calleth them brethren, which had care of the basket.
Hauing thus spoken, of this order of Elders, in the Apostles tymes, and before: I wil now return to that I promised, of the practise of the churches after the Apostles tymes, to see if this order of Elders can finde any more fauour of thē, then of the Answerer. Amongest which, that of Tertullian, 1before alledged of me, is most clear. Nether can the D. escape with this, that the colledg was likely to be of Ministers of the word &c. considering that it is vncredible, that al the churches, whose defence Tertullian taketh vpon him, and whose vsage he describeth, had such a colledg. Then, that of Cyprian commeth to be considered, which noteth a peece of