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An answerAn aunsvvere
An answer by the Reverend Father in God Thomas Archbishop of Canterbury, primate of all England and metropolitan, unto a crafty and sophistical cavillation, devised by Stephen Gardiner Doctor of Law, late Bishop of Winchester against the true and godly doctrine of the most holy sacrament, of the body and blood of our saviour Jesus Christ Wherein is also, as occasion serveth, answered such places of the book of Doct. Richard Smith, as may seem any thing worthy the answering. Here is also the true copy of the book written, and in open court delivered, by D. Stephen Gardiner ...An aunsvvere by the Reuerend Father in God Thomas Archbyshop of Canterbury, primate of all England and metropolitane, vnto a craftie and sophisticall cauillation, deuised by Stephen Gardiner Doctour of Law, late Byshop of Winchester agaynst the true and godly doctrine of the most holy sacrament, of the body and bloud of our sauiour Iesu Christ Wherein is also, as occasion serueth, aunswered such places of the booke of Doct. Richard Smith, as may seeme any thyng worthy the aunsweryng. Here is also the true copy of the booke written, and in open court deliuered, by D. Stephen Gardiner ...
London: printed by John Daye, 1580London: printed by Iohn Daye, 1580
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But how so ever I report Origene, you captiously and very untruly do report me. For whereas I say, that in Gods word, and in the sacraments of baptism, and of the Lords supper, Christ is manifested and exhibited §3unto us, as it were face to face, and sensibly, you leaving out these words (as it were)1 make a quarrel to this word (sensibly) or rather you make that word (sensibly) the foundation of all your weak building, as though there were no difference between sensibly, and as it were sensibly: and as it were all one thing a man to lye sleeping, and as he were sleeping: or dead, and as he were dead. Do not I write thus in my first book, that the washing in the water of baptism, is as it were a showing of Christ before our eyes, and a sensible touching, feeling, and groping of him? And do these words import, that we see him & grope him indeed? And further I say, that the eating and drinking of the sacramental bread and wine, is as it were a showing of Christ before our eyes, a smelling of him with our noses, and a feeling & groping of him with our hands. And do we therefore see him indeed with our corporal eyes, smell him with our noses, and put our hands in his side and feel his wounds? If it were so indeed, I would not add these words, as it were. For what speech were this of a thing that is in deed, to say, as it were? For these words as it were, signify that it is not so indeed. So now likewise in this place of Origene, where it is said, that Christ in his words and sacraments is manifested and exhibited unto us, as it were face to face, and sensibly, it is not meant that Christ is so exhibited in deed face to face, and sensibly, but the sense is clean contrary, that he is not there given sensibly nor face to face. Thus it appeareth how uprightly you handle this matter, and how truly you report my words. But the further you proceed in your answer, the more you show crafty juggeling, legier de §4mayne, passe a gods name, to blind mens eyes, strange speeches, new inventions not without much impiety as the words sound, but what the meaning is, no man can tell but the maker him self. But as the words be placed, it seemeth you mean, that in the Lords supper we be not made by Christs spirit participant of the benefit of his passion: nor by baptism or Gods word, we be not made participant of his godhead by his humanity: