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An answerAn aunsvvere
An answer by the Reverend Father in God Thomas Archbishop of Canterbury, primate of all England and metropolitan, unto a crafty and sophistical cavillation, devised by Stephen Gardiner Doctor of Law, late Bishop of Winchester against the true and godly doctrine of the most holy sacrament, of the body and blood of our saviour Jesus Christ Wherein is also, as occasion serveth, answered such places of the book of Doct. Richard Smith, as may seem any thing worthy the answering. Here is also the true copy of the book written, and in open court delivered, by D. Stephen Gardiner ...An aunsvvere by the Reuerend Father in God Thomas Archbyshop of Canterbury, primate of all England and metropolitane, vnto a craftie and sophisticall cauillation, deuised by Stephen Gardiner Doctour of Law, late Byshop of Winchester agaynst the true and godly doctrine of the most holy sacrament, of the body and bloud of our sauiour Iesu Christ Wherein is also, as occasion serueth, aunswered such places of the booke of Doct. Richard Smith, as may seeme any thyng worthy the aunsweryng. Here is also the true copy of the booke written, and in open court deliuered, by D. Stephen Gardiner ...
London: printed by John Daye, 1580London: printed by Iohn Daye, 1580
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And where you make this difference between baptism, and this sacrament,1 that in baptism Christ is not really present, expounding Really present to signify no more, but to be indeed present, yet after a spiritual manner, if you deny that presence to be in baptism, yet the third fagot I will adventure with you, for your strange and ungodly doctrine within xx. lines together: who may in equality of error contend with the Valentines, Arians, or Anabaptists.
And where you make this difference betwene baptisme, and this sacrament,1 that in baptisme Christ is not really present, expounding Really present to signifie no more, but to be indede present, yet after a spirituall manner, if you deny that presence to be in baptisme, yet the third fagot I will aduenture with you, for your strange and vngodly doctrine within xx. lines togither: who may in equalitie of errour contend with ye Ualentines, Arrians, or Anabaptistes.
- 1The third issue.
But when you come here to your lies (declaring the words,1 sensibly really, substantially, corporally, and naturally) you speak so fondly, unlearnedly, and ignorantly, as they that know you not, might think that you understood neither grammar, english, nor reason. For who is so ignorant but he knoweth that adverbs that end in (ly) be adverbs of quality, and being added to the verb, they express the manner, form and fashion how a thing is, and not the substance of it. As speaking wisely, learnedly, and plainly, is to speak after such a form and manner as wise men learned, and plain men do speak. And to do wisely and godly is to do in such sort and fashion, as wise, and godly men do. And sometime the adverb (ly) signifieth the manner of a thing that is indeed, and sometime the manner of a thing that is not. As when a man speaketh wisely, that is wise indeed. And yet sometime we say, fools speak wisely, which although they be not wise, yet they utter some speeches in such sort, as though they were wise. The King we say useth him self princely in all his doings (who is a prince in deed) but we say also of an arrogant wilful and proud man, that he useth him self princely and Imperiously, although he be neither Prince nor Emperor: and yet we use so to speak of him, because of the manner, form and fashion of using him self. And if you answer foolishly and unlearnedly, be you therefore a fool and unlearned? Nay, but then your answers be made in such wise, manner, sort, and fashion, as you were neither learned nor wise. Or if you send to Rome or receive private letters from thence, be you therefore a Papist? God is judge thereof, but yet do you Popishly, that is to say, use such manner and fashion as the Papists do. But where the form and manner lacketh, there the adverbs of quality in (ly,) have no place, although the thing be there indeed. As when a wise man speaketh not in such a sort, in such a fashion, and wise, as a wise man should speak: not withstanding that he is wise in deed, yet we say not that he speaketh wisely,