A18080:1047
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Whether I am able to show that from Christs time there were two Bishops in one city, before appeared: now appeareth what a vain crack it was / that all the godliest, and best learned expound Cyprian's words off an Archbishop, when not one can be found to testify it. Yet to the end he may have some thing to maintain this brag / he goeth about to make the writers differ from them selves. For if this place be off the authority that every bishop hath in his diocese (as writers do flatly affirm / in so much that the abishop off Salisbury bringeth in Cyprian speaking after this sort: For every bishop (saith Cyprian) within his own diocese, is the priest of God, &c): then it cannot be understanded of an Archbishop. For the authority Cyprian speaketh off / being the highest / and such as could not be controlled of any other bishop: it must necessarily seclude the arch bishops authority / which is above a bishop. And as the Answ. to make Cyprian's place serve his turn / was compelled to expound Priest archbishop, church Province: so to make the bishop and M. Fox help to bear out his follies / he must expound diocese Province / and Bishop archbishop. And what manner of proof is this / to conclude the greater by the less? if of an archbishops authority he had concluded a bishops / it had been more probable: but off a bishops to conclude an archbishops / and off dominion over a diocese (as he pretendeth) to conclude dominion over one Province / is far out off square. The next is answered in the beginning.
Whether I am able to shew that from Christes time there were two Bishops in one cytie, before appeared: now appeareth what a vaine crack it was / that all the godliest, and best learned expound Cyprians wordes off an Archbishop, when not one can be found to testifie it. Yet to thend he may haue some thing to mainteine this brag / he goeth about to make the writers differ from them selues. For if this place be off the autoritie that euery bishop hath in his dioces (as writers doo flatly affirme / in so much that the abishop off Salisbury bringeth in Cyprian speaking after this sort: For euery bishop (saith Cyprian) vvithin his ovvne dioces, is the priest of God, &c): then yt cannot be vnderstanded of an Archbishop. For the autoritie Cyprian speaketh off / being the highest / and such as could not be controlled of any other bishop: yt must necessarily seclude tharch bishops autoritie / which is aboue a bishop. And as the Answ. to make Cyprians place serue his turne / was compelled to expound Priest archbishop, church Prouince: so to make the bishop and M. Fox help to beare owt his folies / he must expound dioces Prouince / and Bishop archbishop. And what man̄er of proofe is this / to cōclude the greater by the lesse? yf of an archbishops autoritie he had concluded a bishops / it had bene more probable: but off a bishops to conclude an archbishops / and off dominion ouer a dioces (as he pretendeth) to conclude dominion ouer one Prouince / is far owt off square. The next is answered in the beginning.