A18080:464
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
And where he saith / I oppose my bare conjectures, to improve so many learned mens judgements: I have showed how he hath over told. I have no where reasoned against you / as if you should affirm that by that word, the laying of on hands, should be meant. Therefore if you had spared that cavil / you might have been clear of two moe errors which you are fallen into / by affirming partly / that S. Luke by the word lifting up off hands, signifieth the whole solemnity of creating ministers (which can not be true / seeing he expresseth two other parts off it / which are prayer / and fasting) partly in affirming / that he doth in the words off laying on off hands all ways understand, the bare laying on off hands only: when as in two off those places 1which I have alleged / it may appear / that by those words is noted / not only the putting on off hands: but also the prayers which were made / for the receiving off the gifts off the holy ghost. Which thing expressed in an other place to have been done by Peter / and John / we must esteem observed / at other times.
And where he saithe / I oppose my bare coniectures, to improue so many learned mennes iudgements: I haue shewed howe he hath ouer toulde. I haue no where reasoned againste yow / as if yow shoulde affirme that by that worde, the laying of on hādes, shoulde be mēte. Therfore if yow had spared that cauil / yow mighte haue bene cleare of two moe errors which yow are fallen into / by affirminge partly / that S. Luke by the worde lifting vp off handes, signifieth the whole solemnitie of creatinge ministers (which can not be true / seinge he expresseth two other parts off yt / whiche are praier / and fastinge) partly in affirminge / that he dothe in the wordes off laying on off handes all waies vnderstande, the bare layinge on off handes onely: when as in two off those places 1whiche I haue alledged / it maie appeare / that by those wordes is noted / not onely the puttinge on off handes: but also the praiers whiche were made / for the receiuinge off the giftes off the holie goste. Which thinge expressed in an other place to haue bene done by Peter / and Iohn / we must esteme obserued / at othertymes.