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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
Title page typeset from the transcription.
Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.
The next rank is of those / which are not only not profitable / but directly hurtful unto his cause. In which number is ⟨p. CCI⟩the witness off Master Bull. that word which signifieth lifting up of hands, is so placed that we may understand, either that they were chosen by voice off the people, or ordained by laying on off hands: especially if he had added the four next words / I think both were done Whereby appeareth that Master Bullingers opinion is / that both the churches chose by voices / and the Apostles laid on their hands / which directly overthroweth the Answ. For his answer is such / that onles the word do only signify there the ceremony off imposition off hands / and not the election by voices: it goeth to the ground. therefore Master Bulling. saying / that both were done in this place: there could be no flatter testimony against him / then it.
The next rancke is of those / whiche are not onely not profytable / but directly hurtefull vnto his cause. In whiche number is ⟨p. CCI⟩the witnes off Maister Bull. that vvorde vvhich signifieth lifting vp of handes, is so placed that vve may vnderstande, either that they vvere chosen by voice off the people, or ordeined by laying on off handes: especially if he had added the fowre next wordes / I thinke bothe vvere doone Wherby appearethe that Maister Bullingers opinion is / that bothe the churches chose by voices / and the Apostels laied on their handes / which directly ouerthrowethe the Answ. For his answer is suche / that onles the worde doo onely signifie there the ceremonie off imposition off handes / and not the election by voices: yt goethe to the grownd. therfore Maister Bulling. sayinge / that boothe were doone in this place: there coulde be no flatter testimonie againste hym / then yt.
And where he citeth Master Bullinger / that he is elected 1by common suffrages off the People, which is chosen by the testimony off the best: I know good reader thou marvellest / not / that it cometh out off time / for that is his ordinary: but doest thou not marvel / what mystical rhetoric hath separated so far a sunder / this sentence from the other which he before alleged? Leave to marvel / there is no great art in it / but there