The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright

Your reproaches here are answered. I gave you as ready a way to find those testimonies / as I had given me. If you took ¹it out off Musculus your self / then might have noted the place: if you had it of others / you should have named your collector / as I did mine. Here is occasion taken to repeat / and translate a great deal out of Musculus / but nothing to purpose. For I deny not / but that he is off Judgement / that a man constrained by corruption off times / may depart from the Apostolical election shutting out the people: but I deny that that is warranted by substantial arguments. Beside I have showed / that here in words against us / in his reasons he standeth for us. Which shall best be understanded / in that the D. being not able to lift the whole / hath mangled them / and snatched here and there a word: if peradventure untwisted he might deal with them / which otherwise he could not break. For where I cited ⟨p. CCLX⟩out off Musculus that it is a bondage unto the church, to have their minister thrust upon it without choice off the people: he answereth / that subjection to magistrates is no bondage: wherein he toucheth nether heaven / nor earth. For he should have answered as unto Musculus / and not as unto me: considering that I alleged that out off him / off whom he hath taken all his reasons. And therefore the note off Anabaptism, which he marketh all those with / that say it is bondage unto the church, to have their pastor thrust upon them: lighteth upon Musculus / which thus speaketh / and affirmeth it constantly.

Your reproches heere are answered. I gaue yow as readie a waie to finde those testimonies / as I had giuen me. If yow tooke ¹yt owte off Musculus yowr selfe / then mighte haue noted the place: if yow had yt of others / yow should haue named yowr collector / as I did mine. Heere is occasion taken to repeate / and translate a great deale owt of Musculus / but nothing to purpose. For I denie not / but that he is off Iudgement / that a man constrained by corruption off tymes / maie departe from the Apostolicall election shuttinge owt the people: but I denie that that is warranted by substantial argumentes. Beside I haue shewed / that heere in wordes against vs / in his reasons he stādeth for vs. Which shall beste be vnsterstanded / in that the D. being not hable to lyfte the whole / hath mangled them / and snatched here and there a worde: if peraduenture vntwisted he might deale with them / which otherwise he coulde not breake. For where I cited