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The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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And where he saith / that there is nothing in those 6. and 7. of Euseb. which maketh mention of any election by the people, but in one only, which he goeth about to wipe a way: that thou mayest know the D. changeth not his skin / I will note them in a word. To leave therefore the election made by revelation / where he saith the election was 1made by the ministers, and pastors: it is manifest that the churches had to do in the elections. For in the endorsement of the letters / whereby an other was appointed at Antioch / into Samosatenus room: as well authority off the churches is pretended / as off the bishops / elders / and deacons. Where also he would clude the other place / first because it was a miracle, then for that by the word brethren, it is not certain whether the people were noted: for the first / 2it may appear how vain it is / seeing the story saith / the brethren came together to choose a bishop. The miracle therefore which came unlooked for off them / and after they were assembled / was to direct them in their election / and not to authorise them to ⟨p. CCLXXXII⟩choose. For authority they had before: else they would not have come together for that purpose. As for the other / it is a boldness too insufferable / without showing any one example / and contrary both unto the phrase off the scripture / and ancient fathers / showed in my former book / and off Eusebius him self / as may appear 3divers times in some one chapter.
And where he saith / that there is nothing in those 6. and 7. of Euseb. which maketh mentiō of any electiō by the people, but in one onely, which he goeth about to wipe a way: that thow maiest know the D. changeth not his skin / I will note them in a word. To leaue therfore the election made by reuelation / where he saith the election was 1made by the ministers, and pastors: yt is manifest that the churches had to doo in the electiōs. For in the indorcemēt of the letters / wherby an other was appointed at Antioche / into Samosatenus roume: as well autority off the churches is pretended / as off the bishops / elders / and deacons. Where also he would clude the other place / firste because it was a miracle, then for that by the word brethren, it is not certeine whether the people were noted: for the first /