A18080:664
The second reply of Thomas CartwrightThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright
The second reply of Thomas Cartwright: against Master Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Church disciplineThe second replie of Thomas Cartwright: agaynst Maister Doctor Whitgiftes second answer, touching the Churche discipline
Heidelberg: printed by Michael Schirat, 1575
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His third reason is drawn off authority off writer. wherein not to examine how truly he hath alleged these places / as a thing unworthy the turning off a leaf / nor to speak off his fond allegation off divers authorities / especially Chrysostom / and Theodoreis / which make no manner mention off any bishopely state off Timothy / off Zuinglius twice cited which making the office off a bishop / and Evangelist one / serveth not to prove / ether that he was more a bishop then an Evangelist / or that the same may have divers functions at once: I say not to examine these / they are all (if I would use his own weapon) overthrown 1in a word / that histories are not curious, in calling men by their several titles. If that be true in histories / which off all other seek after even from the cradle to the grave / things of less importance / then the office which a man hath borne / ether in church / or common wealth: much more is it in other writers. But that writers especially when they speak by the way / and not off set purpose / speak thus / and call men by unproper titles: shall be once answered against all the rakings / both here / and pag. 230. when I come to the D. arguments whereby he proveth Prophets / Evangelists / Apostles / &c. In the mean season I will not stick to confess / that divers off these writers / histories especially (peradventure deceived by that subscription) esteemed him a bishop / and no Evangelist. But what then? if they were for one a 100. they can not countervail / much less bear down / the testimony of the Apostle.2
His third reason is drawne off autoritie off writere. wherein not to examin howe truly he hath alledged these places / as a thing vnworthy the tourning off a leafe / nor to speake off his fond allegation off diuers autorities / especially Chrysostome / and Theodoreis / which make no manner mention off any bishopely state off Timothe / off Zuinglius twise cited which making thoffice off a bishop / and Euangelist one / serueth not to proue / ether that he was more a bishop then an Euangelist / or that the same may haue diuers functions at once: I say not to examin these / they are all (yf I would vse his owne weapon) ouerthrowne 1in a word / that histories are not curious, in calling men by their seuerall titles. If that be true in histories / which off all other seeke after euen from the cradell to the graue / thinges of les importance / then the office which a man hath borne / ether in church / or commen wealth: much more is it in other writers. But that writers especially when they speake by the way / and not off set pourpose / speake thus / and call mē by vnpropertitles: shalbe once answered against all the rakinges / both here / and pag. 230. when I come to the D. argumēts whereby he proueth Prophetes / Euangelistes / Apostles / &c. In the meane season I will not sticke to cōfesse / that diuers off these writers / histories especially (peraduenture deceiued by that subscription) estemed him a bishop / and no Euangeliste. But what then? if they were for one a 100. they can not counteruaile / much lesse beare downe / the testimonie of the Apostle.