A67927:5946
Acts and monuments of matters most special and memorable, happening in the Church. [vol. 2, part 2] with an universal history of the same, wherein is set forth at large the whole race and course of the Church, from the primitive age to these latter times of ours, with the bloody times, horrible troubles, and great persecutions against the true martyrs of Christ, sought and wrought as well by heathen emperors, as now lately practised by Romish prelates, especially in this realm of England and Scotland. Newly revised and recognised, partly also augmented, and now the fourth time again published and recommended to the studious reader, by the author (through the help of Christ our Lord) John Fox, which desireth thee good reader to help him with thy prayer.Actes and monuments of matters most speciall and memorable, happenyng in the Church. [vol. 2, part 2] with an vniuersall history of the same, wherein is set forth at large the whole race and course of the Church, from the primitiue age to these latter tymes of ours, with the bloudy times, horrible troubles, and great persecutions agaynst the true martyrs of Christ, sought and wrought as well by heathen emperours, as nowe lately practised by Romish prelates, especially in this realme of England and Scotland. Newly reuised and recognised, partly also augmented, and now the fourth time agayne published and recommended to the studious reader, by the author (through the helpe of Christ our Lord) Iohn Foxe, which desireth thee good reader to helpe him with thy prayer.
London: printed by John Daye, 1583London: printed by Iohn Daye, 1583
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Chich. It is that altar that I mean.
Chich. It is that aultar that I meane.
Wood. I understand not the altar so.
Wood. I vnderstand not the aultar so.
Chich. No, I think so in deed: and that is the cause that you be deceived. I pray you, how do you understand the altar then?
Chich. No, I thinke so in deede: and that is the cause that you be deceiued. I pray you, how doe you vnderstand the aultar then?
Wood. If you will give me leave till I have done, I will show you how I understand the altar, and where it is.
Wood. If you will geue me leaue till I haue done, I will shew you how I vnderstand the aultar, and where it is.
Chich. Yes, you shall have leave to say your mind, as much as you will.
Chich. Yes, you shall haue leaue to say your minde, as much as you will.
Wood. It is written. Mat. 18. That wheresoever two or three be gathered together in Christs name, 1there is he in the midst among them: and whatsoever they ask the father upon earth, it shall be granted them in heaven, agreeing to the 5. of Math. saying: When thou comest to offer thy gift at the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee, 2leave there thy offering, and go first and be reconciled to thy brother, and then offer thy gift. The priests would have interrupted me: but the bishop bad them let me alone.
Wood. It is written. Mat. 18. That wheresoeuer two or three be gathered together in Christes name, 1there is he in the midst among them: and whatsoeuer they aske the father vpon earth, it shalbe graunted them in heauen, agreeing to the 5. of Math. saying: When thou commest to offer thy gift at the aultar, and there remēbrest that thy brother hath ought agaynst thee, 2leaue there thy offering, and go first and be reconciled to thy brother, and then offer thy gift. The priests would haue interrupted me: but the bishop bad them let me alone.
Chich. You shall hear a pretty conclusion anon.
Chich. You shall heare a prety conclusion anone.
Wood. I pray you let me make an end, and then find fault with me if you can. Now to the matter. In these two places of scripture,1 I prove that Christ is the true altar, where on every christian man & woman ought to come and offer their gifts. First wheresoever the people are gathered together in Christs name, there is he in the midst: & where he is, there is the altar, so that we may be bold to come & offer our gift, if we be in love and charity: if we be not, we must leave there our offering, and go first and be reconciled to our brother, & agree with him quickly, and so forth, and then come and offer thy gift. Some will say, how shall I agree with my adversary,2 when he is not nigh by a hum dread miles? may I not pray till I have spoken with him? To all such I answer: if thou presume to pray among the faithful, wishing any evil to any man, woman or child, thou askest vengeance upon thy self. For no such asketh any thing else of the Lord in his prayer. Wherefore agree with thy adversary: that is, make thy life agreeable to Gods word. Say in thy heart without dissimulation, that thou askest God and all the world forgiveness from the bottom of thy hart, intending never to offend them any more. Then all such may be bold to come & offer their gift, their prayer on the altar, where the people of god be gathered together. Thus have I showed you my mind, both of the altar, & of the offering, as I understand it.
Wood. I pray you let me make an end, and then find fault with me if you can. Now to the matter. In these two places of scripture,1 I proue that Christ is ye true aultar, wher on euery christian man & woman ought to come and offer their giftes. First wheresoeuer the people are gathered together in Christes name, there is he in the midst: & where he is, there is the aultar, so that we may be bold to come & offer our gift, if we be in loue and charity: if we be not, we must leaue there our offering, and go first and be reconciled to our brother, & agree with him quickely, and so forth, and then come and offer thy gift. Some will say, how shal I agree with my aduersary,2 when he is not nigh by a hū dred miles? may I not pray till I haue spoken with him? To al such I answere: if thou presume to pray among the faithful, wyshing any euil to any mā, womā or child, thou askest vengeaunce vpon thy selfe. For no such asketh any thing els of the Lord in his prayer. Wherefore agree with thy aduersary: yt is, make thy life agreable to Gods word. Saye in thy harte without dissimulation, that thou askest God and all the world forgeuenes from the bottom of thy hart, entending neuer to offēd thē any more. Thē all such may be bold to come & offer their gifte, their prayer on the aultar, where ye people of god be gathered together. Thus haue I shewed you my mind, both of ye aultar, & of the offering, as I vnderstand it.
Chich. Do you understand the offering and the altar so? I never heard any man understand it so, no not Luther the great heretic, that was condemned by a general Council, and his picture burned.
Chich. Doe you vnderstand the offering and the aultar so? I neuer heard any man vnderstand it so, no not Luther ye great hereticke, that was condēned by a generall Coūcell, and his picture burned.
Wood. If he were an heretic, I think he understood it not so in deed: but I am sure all Christians ought to understand it so.
Wood. If he were an heretick, I thinke he vnderstoode it not so in deed: but I am sure all Christians ought to vnderstand it so.
Chich. O what vain glory is in you, as though you understood all thing, & other men nothing. Hear me: I will show you the true understanding, both of the altar, & the offering on the altar. We have an altar (said Paul) that ye may not eat of▪ 1meaning thereby that no man might eat of that which was offered on the altar, but the Priest. For in Pauls time all the living that the Priest had, the people came & offered it on the altar, money or other things: and when the people came to offer it, and then remembered that they had any thing against their brother, then they left their offering upon the altar, and went & were reconciled to their brother: and they came again and offered their gift, and the Priest had it. This is the true understanding of the place that you have rehearsed: wherefore you be deceived.
Chich. O what vayne glory is in you, as though you vnderstood all thing, & other men nothing. Heare me: I will shew you the true vnderstanding, both of the aultar, & the offering on the aultar. We haue an aultar (sayd Paul) that ye may not eate of▪ 1meaning thereby that no man might eat of that which was offered on the aultar, but the Priest. For in Paules time all the liuing that the Priest had, the people came & offered it on the aultar, mony or other thinges: and when the people came to offer it, and then remēbred that they had any thing agaynst their brother, thē they left their offering vpon the aultar, and went & were reconciled to theyr brother: and they came agayne and offred their gift, and the Priest had it. This is the true vnderstanding of the place that you haue rehersed: wherefore you be deceiued.
Wood. My Lord, that was the use in the old law. Christ was the end of that. But in deed I perceive by Pauls words, the sacrifice was offered in Pauls time: yet that maketh not that it was well done, but he rebuked it. Wherefore, it seemeth to me that you be deceived.
Wood. My Lord, that was the vse in the olde law. Christ was the ende of that. But in deede I perceiue by Paules wordes, the sacrifice was offered in Paules time: yet that maketh not that it was wel done, but he rebuked it. Wherfore, it seemeth to me that you be deceiued.
Wood. The xij. of John declareth who shall be judge in the last day.
Wood. The xij. of Iohn declareth who shall be iudge in ye last day.
Chich. You mean the word shall judge the word: Howe can that be?
Chich. You meane the word shall iudge the word: Howe can that be?