A67927:5976
Acts and monuments of matters most special and memorable, happening in the Church. [vol. 2, part 2] with an universal history of the same, wherein is set forth at large the whole race and course of the Church, from the primitive age to these latter times of ours, with the bloody times, horrible troubles, and great persecutions against the true martyrs of Christ, sought and wrought as well by heathen emperors, as now lately practised by Romish prelates, especially in this realm of England and Scotland. Newly revised and recognised, partly also augmented, and now the fourth time again published and recommended to the studious reader, by the author (through the help of Christ our Lord) John Fox, which desireth thee good reader to help him with thy prayer.Actes and monuments of matters most speciall and memorable, happenyng in the Church. [vol. 2, part 2] with an vniuersall history of the same, wherein is set forth at large the whole race and course of the Church, from the primitiue age to these latter tymes of ours, with the bloudy times, horrible troubles, and great persecutions agaynst the true martyrs of Christ, sought and wrought as well by heathen emperours, as nowe lately practised by Romish prelates, especially in this realme of England and Scotland. Newly reuised and recognised, partly also augmented, and now the fourth time agayne published and recommended to the studious reader, by the author (through the helpe of Christ our Lord) Iohn Foxe, which desireth thee good reader to helpe him with thy prayer.
London: printed by John Daye, 1583London: printed by Iohn Daye, 1583
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Wood. If you say the words of baptism over the water, & there be no child there, is there true baptism?
Wood. If you say the words of baptisme ouer the water, & there be no childe there, is there true baptisme?
Chich. No, there must be the water, the word, and the child, and then it is baptism.
Chich. No, there must be the water, the worde, and the child, and then it is baptisme.
Wood. Very well. Then if a child be Baptised in the name of the Father, and of the Son, it is not truly baptised.
Wood. Uerye well. Then if a childe bee Baptised in the name of the Father, and of the Sonne, it is not truely baptised.
Chich. No the child must be baptised in the name of the father, & of the Son, & the holy ghost, or else it is not truly baptised.
Chich. No the childe muste bee baptised in the name of the father, & of the sonne, & the holy ghost, or els it is not truly baptised.
Wood. Then there may be nothing added, nor taken away from the Sacraments: may there?
Wood. Then there may be nothing added, nor takē away from the Sacraments: may there?
Chich. No, said the Bishop.
Chich. No, sayd the Bishop.
Wood. Now, my Lord, I will answer to you, if it please you.
Wood. Now, my Lord, I will answere to you, if it please you.
Chich. Well, how say you. Take, eat, this is my body: is it not Christs body, as soon as the words be said?
Chich. Well, how say you. Take, eat, this is my body: is it not Christes body, as soone as the wordes be sayd?
Wood. My Lord, I will answer you by your own words,1 that you answered me, whi•h is true: the water, the word, and the child, all these together make baptism: the bread, wine, and the word make the Sacrament: & the eater, eating in true faith, maketh it his body. Here I prove it is not Christs body, but to the faithful receiver. For he said: Take, eat, this is my body. He called it not his body before eating, but after eating. And Saint Augustine saith: Creed, & manducasti: Believe, and thou hast eaten And Saint John saith: He that believeth in God, dwelleth in God, and God in him: wherefore it is unpossible to dwell in God, and to eat his body, without a true faith.
Wood. My Lorde, I will aunswere you by your owne wordes,1 that you aunswered me, whi•h is true: the water, the word, and the childe, all these together make baptisme: the bread, wine, and the word make the Sacrament: & the eater, eating in true fayth, maketh it his body. Here I proue it is not Christes body, but to the faythfull receiuer. For he sayd: Take, eat, this is my body. He called it not his body before eating, but after eating. And Saynt Augustine sayth: Crede, & manducasti: Beleue, and thou hast eaten And Saynt Iohn sayth: He that beleueth in God, dwelleth in God, and God in him: wherfore it is vnpossible to dwell in God, and to eat his body, without a true fayth.
Priest. 1Then the faith of the receiver maketh it his body, & not his word, by your saying. I pray you, what did Judas eat?
Priest. 1Then the fayth of the receiuer maketh it his body, & not his word, by your saying. I pray you, what did Iudas eate?
Wood. Judas did eat the sacrament of Christ, and the devil withal.
Wood. Iudas did eat the sacrament of Christ, and the deuill withall.
Priest. He eat the body of Christ unworthily, as S. Paul saith.
Priest. He eat the body of Christ vnworthely, as S. Paule sayth.
Wood. Nay, S. Paul saith no such thing. He speaketh not of eating of his body unworthily, but of the sacrament unworthily. For he saith: Who soever eateth of this bread, & drinketh of this cup unworthily, eateth and drinketh his own damnation, because he maketh no difference of the Lords body: and not because he eateth the Lords body. If Judas had eat Christs body,1 it must needs follow that Judas is saved. For Christ saith in the sixth of John: Who so ever eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life, and I will raise him up again at the last day.
Wood. Nay, S. Paule sayth no such thing. He speaketh not of eating of his body vnworthely, but of the sacrament vnworthely. For he sayth: Who soeuer eateth of this bread, & drinketh of this cup vnworthely, eateth and drinketh his owne damnation, because he maketh no difference of the Lordes body: and not because he eateth the Lordes body. If Iudas had eat Christes body,1 it must needes folow that Iudas is saued. For Christ sayth in the sixt of Iohn: Who so euer eateth my flesh, and drinketh my bloud, hath eternall life, and I will raise him vp agayne at the last day.
Priest. My Lord, this man is an interpreter after his own mind.
Priest. My Lord, this man is an interpreter after his own minde.
Chich. I see it is but folly to talk with you: it is but lost labour. How say you? Do you not believe, that after the words be said,1 there remaineth neither bread nor wine, but the very body of Christ really? make me a plain answer, for I will talk no more with you.
Chich. I see it is but folly to talke with you: it is but lost labour. How say you? Doe you not beleue, that after the wordes be sayd,1 there remayneth neither bread nor wyne, but the very body of Christ really? make me a playne aunswere, for I will talke no more with you.
Wood. I will make you no direct answer, how I believe of the true Sacrament. I do believe, that if I come to receive the Sacrament of the body and blood of Christ, truly ministered,1 believing that Christ was borne for me, and that he suffered death for me, and that I shall be saved from my sins by his bloudshedding, & so receiving the Sacrament in that remembrance, then I believe I do receive wholly Christ, God and man, mystically by faith: this is my belief.
Wood. I will make you no directe aunswere, howe I beleue of the true Sacrament. I doe beleue, that if I come to receiue the Sacrament of the body and bloud of Christ, truely ministred,1 beleuing that Christ was borne for mee, and that he suffered death for me, and that I shall be saued from my sinnes by his bloudshedding, & so receiuing the Sacrament in that remembraunce, then I beleue I do receiue wholly Christ, God and mā, mistically by fayth: this is my beliefe.
