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Acts and monuments of matters most special and memorable, happening in the Church. [vol. 2, part 2] with an universal history of the same, wherein is set forth at large the whole race and course of the Church, from the primitive age to these latter times of ours, with the bloody times, horrible troubles, and great persecutions against the true martyrs of Christ, sought and wrought as well by heathen emperors, as now lately practised by Romish prelates, especially in this realm of England and Scotland. Newly revised and recognised, partly also augmented, and now the fourth time again published and recommended to the studious reader, by the author (through the help of Christ our Lord) John Fox, which desireth thee good reader to help him with thy prayer.Actes and monuments of matters most speciall and memorable, happenyng in the Church. [vol. 2, part 2] with an vniuersall history of the same, wherein is set forth at large the whole race and course of the Church, from the primitiue age to these latter tymes of ours, with the bloudy times, horrible troubles, and great persecutions agaynst the true martyrs of Christ, sought and wrought as well by heathen emperours, as nowe lately practised by Romish prelates, especially in this realme of England and Scotland. Newly reuised and recognised, partly also augmented, and now the fourth time agayne published and recommended to the studious reader, by the author (through the helpe of Christ our Lord) Iohn Foxe, which desireth thee good reader to helpe him with thy prayer.
London: printed by John Daye, 1583London: printed by Iohn Daye, 1583
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Wood. A pretty question, I promise you, it is that you ask me: as though I did make my self equal with God. ⟨p. 1996⟩No, no, you shall catch no such vantage of my words nor I know not how many there be. But I will tell you as nigh as I can. For therefore you look, I am sure, that I should enter into Judgement.
Wood. A prety question, I promise you, it is that you aske me: as though I did make my selfe equall with God. ⟨p. 1996⟩No, no, you shal catch no such vauntage of my words nor I know not how many there be. But I will tell you as nigh as I can. For therefore you looke, I am sure, that I should enter into Iudgement.
Wood. You shall see my judgement in it by and by. First the Prophet: Follow not a multitude to do evil, for they must go the wrong way. For the most go the wrong way. There is one point to know them. Then christ saith in the 7. of Mat. Broad is the way & wide is the gate that leadeth into destruction, and many there be that go in thereat: and strait is the gate, and narrow is the way that leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. And in the xii. of Luke, it is written (which words were spoken of Christ) Come you little flock, it is my fathers will to give you a kingdom. The third point is this. In the third of Mark and second of Matthew: You (saith Christ) shall know the tree by the fruits. 1A good tree bringeth forth good fruits, and a bad tree tree bringeth forth bad fruits: So by fruits I know them. For every tree that bringeth not forth good fruits, must be hewn down and cast into the fire (into hell I think Christ meant) and your fruits declare that you be one of them.2 Thus have I proved four ways that the people that shall be saved, is but a small company in comparison of the rest. But if that be not enough, for the proof thereof, I have twenty ways more to prove it by, and you were never the near of your purpose.
Wood. You shall see my iudgement in it by and by. First the Prophet: Follow not a multitude to do euill, for they must go the wrong way. For the most go the wrong way. There is one poynt to know them. Thē christ sayth in the 7. of Mat. Broad is the way & wide is the gate that leadeth into destruction, and many there be that go in thereat: and strayte is the gate, and narrow is the waye that leadeth vnto life, and few there be that finde it. And in the xii. of Luke, it is written (which words were spoken of Christ) Come you little flocke, it is my fathers will to geue you a kyngdome. The third poynt is this. In the thyrd of Mark and second of Mathewe: You (saythe Christe) shall knowe the tree by the frutes. 1A good tree bringeth foorth good fruites, and a badde tree tree bringeth forth bad fruites: So by fruites I know them. For euery tree that bringeth not foorth good fruites, must be hewn downe and cast into ye fire (into hell I thinke Christ meant) and your fruites declare that you be one of them.2
Lang. What a naughty man are you? you would make the patientest man in the world angry with you. I think your talk is nothing but pride and vainglory, with frumps, and mocks, and despising & judging of men. It was time such a fellow were taken in deed. Such a one is enough to trouble a whole country. I think he is blest of GOD that took you: for you are not meet to be in a common wealth.
Lang. What a naughty man are you? you would make the patientest mā in the world angry with you. I thinke your talke is nothing but pryde and vayneglorye, wt frumpes, and mockes, and dispising & iudging of men. It was time such a fellow were taken in deede. Suche a one is enough to trouble a whole country. I thinke he is blest of GOD that tooke you: for you are not meete to be in a common wealth.
Wood. With divers other such like words that I cannot recite, they came out so thick, with stamping and staring and chasing as though he had been out of his wit. I held my peace, until he had made an end of his tormentors talk and then I spake. Wherein have I said amiss? or have I not answered you unto every question that you have demanded of me? What fault can you find in one word that I have said? I dare say you can find none. I marvel why you take on thus against me, having no cause so to do.
Wood. With diuers other such like wordes that I cannot recite, they came out so thicke, with stamping and staryng and chasing as though he had bene out of his witt. I held my peace, vntil he had made an end of his tormētors talk and then I spake. Wherein haue I sayd amisse? or haue I not answered you vnto euery question that you haue demaunded of me? What fault can you finde in one word that I haue sayd? I dare say you can finde none. I maruayle why you take on thus agaynst me, hauing no cause so to doe.
Lang. No, no, you have not answered me to original sin, you deny original sin.
Lang. No, no, you haue not aunswered me to original sin, you deny originall sinne.
Wood. With these words came in at the door M. James Gage: And I think he stood at the door a good while before he came in, and that Doctor Langdall saw him: For his face was to the door ward,1 and my face was from it.
Wood. With these wordes came in at the dore M. Iames Gage: And I thinke hee stoode at the dore a good whyle before he came in, and that Doctour Langdall sawe hym: For his face was to the dore ward,1 and my face was from it.
Gage. Ah Woodman, me think master Doctor and you cannot agree.
Gage. Ah Woodman, me thinke mayster Doctor and you cannot agree.
Wood. Yes sir me think we agree very well.
Wood. Yes sir me thinke we agree very well.
Lang. Without doubt sir he is the naughtiest man that ever I talked with in all my life: for he will have his own way in all things.
Lang. Without doubte sir he is the naughtiest man that euer I talked with in all my life: for he will haue his owne way in all thinges.
Gage. Woodman, leave that pride. Do not trust so much to your own wit. Hearken to this man. This is a learned man, I tell you. He is known to be learned. For else he should not be allowed to preach before the Queens majesty: and I dare say he will tell thee nothing, nor will thee to do nothing, but that he will do himself: and I dare say he will not go to the Devil to bring the thither: How say you M. Doc.? Thou mightest think us mad, if we would hurt our selves to hurt thee. No I promise thee, my brother, neither I, nor no gentleman in the Country, I think of my conscience, but would thou shouldst do as well as their own bodies and souls, as a great many of them have said to thy face whilst thou wast at my brothers, the which thou canst not deny.
Gage. Woodman, leaue that pride. Do not trust so muche to your own wit. Harken to this man. This is a learned man, I tell you. He is knowne to be learned. For els hee shuld not be allowed to preach before the Queenes maiesty: and I dare say he will tell thee nothing, nor will thee to doe nothing, but that he will do himselfe: and I dare say he will not go to the Deuill to bring the thether: How say you M. Doc.? Thou mightest think vs mad, if we would hurt our selues to hurte thee. No I promise thee, my brother, neither I, nor no gentleman in the Country, I think of my conscience, but would thou shouldst doe as well as their owne bodyes and soules, as a great many of them haue sayd to thy face whilest thou wast at my brothers, the which thou canst not deny.
Wood. Sir, I can say none otherwise but I was gently entreated at your brothers, both with meat and drink & gentle words, both of you and him, and divers other gē tlemen: and I am sure you nor they can say, that you found me unreasonable at any time. For I said I was contented to learn of them that were able to teach me, and so I am, as God knoweth: and here M. Doctor (I think) can say no otherwise: for I dare say he can find no fault in the talk that we have had.1
Wood. Sir, I can saye none otherwise but I was gently entreated at your brothers, both with meate and drynke & gentle wordes, both of you and him, and diuers other gē tlemen: and I am sure you nor they can say, that you foūd me vnreasonable at any time. For I sayde I was contented to learne of them that were able to teache me, and so I am, as God knoweth: and here M. Doctour (I think) can say no otherwise: for I dare say he can find no fault in the talke that we haue had.1
Lang. No marry, I can find nothing else in you, I promise you master Gage, if you had been here, you would have said so your self. He took me up in deed, and said he marvelled how I durst preach. For he said, I understood not the scripture, but as far as natural reason comprehended? as though he understood all, and I nothing. With divers other such like words he made a great complaint to him on me, & said to master James Gage, he would make you believe that I could find no fault in in him. Yes iwis: he denieth original sin.
Lang. No mary, I can finde nothing els in you, I promise you mayster Gage, if you had bene here, you woulde haue sayd so your selfe. He tooke me vp in deede, and sayd he maruailed how I durst preach. For he sayde, I vnderstoode not the scripture, but as farre as naturall reason comprehended? as though he vnderstoode all, and I nothing. With diuers other such like words he made a great complaint to him on me, & sayd to mayster Iames Gage, he would make you beleue that I could finde no faulte in in him. Yes iwis: he denieth originall sinne.
Gage. Yea? doth he so? by S. Mary that is a great matter, Woodman: leave that pride. That pride will come to naught. Can ye live without sin?
Gage. Yea? doth he so? by S. Mary that is a great matter, Woodman: leaue yt pride. That pride wil come to naught. Can ye liue without sinne?
Wood. Sir, now I perceive he will soon lye on me behind my back, when he will not stick to lye before my face. He saith I denied original sin: and it was he himself, as I will let you be judge in the matter. For as he went about to prove that man hath free will, he said we were set as free by the death of christ,1 as Adam was before his fall: which words prove plainly that we have no original sin: And I took him withal, & said: had Adam original sin before his fall? and then he could not tell what to say but cavilled with words, and said he meant not so: and therefore I marvel he is not ashamed to make such lies to my face, These words made them both astonied.
Wood. Sir, now I perceiue he will soone lye on me behinde my backe, when hee will not sticke to lye before my face. He sayth I denied originall sinne: and it was he hymselfe, as I will let you be iudge in the matter. For as hee went about to proue that man hath free will, he sayd wee were set as free by the death of christ,1 as Adam was before his fall: which wordes proue playnely that we haue no original sin: And I tooke him withall, & sayd: had Adam originall sinne before hys fall? and then hee coulde not tell what to say but cauilled with wordes, and sayd he meant not so: and therefore I maruell he is not ashamed to make such lies to my face, These wordes made them both astonyed.
Gage. M. Doctor he said even now you could find no fault in all his talk. I will bid you ask him a question, that I will warrant you shall find fault enough, I pray you ask him how he believeth in the Sacrament of the Altar. I think he will make but a bad account thereof.
Gage. M. Doctour he sayd euen now you coulde finde no fault in all his talke. I will bid you aske him a question, that I will warrant you shall finde faulte enough, I pray you aske hym howe he beleeueth in the Sacramente of the Aultar. I thinke hee will make but a bad accompte thereof.
