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A reply unto M. Hardinges answerA replie vnto M. Hardinges ansvveareJohn Jewel, 1565

The B. of Salisbury.The B. of Sarisburie.

pp. 47–5030 passages

Modern spelling is a reading aid: the words are the author’s, only the spelling is modernized. Original shows the page as printed, with the transcription marks.

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The B. of Salisbury.

The B. of Sarisburie.

:408p. 47–48

This place of S. Basil we might have safely passed over without prejudice of our cause, as touching other things impertinent, and not once making ⟨p. 48⟩mention of the Mass.¹ Yet seeing it hath pleased M. Harding thus to colour, and to emboss out this ancient Father, as if he alone of all others spake most plainly of his side, having notwithstanding both in this very self same place, and also in other words immediately before, which M. Harding thought best of purpose to dissemble, manifest record against Private Mass, I may not well utterly leave him in silence.

This place of S. Basil wée might haue safely passed ouer without preiudice of our cause, as touchinge other thinges impertinent, and not once makinge ⟨p. 48⟩mention of the Masse.¹ Yet séeinge it hath pleased M. Hardinge thus to coloure, and to embosse out this aunciente Father, as if he alone of al others spake moste plainely of his side, hauinge notwithstandinge bothe in this very selfe same place, and also in other woordes immediatly before, whiche M. Hardinge thought beste of purpose to dissemble, manifest recorde against Priuate Masse, I may not wel vtterly leaue him in silence.

1Receiving with the hand.Receiuing vvith the hande.

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But be it that both the Reason were good, and the Custom that long sithence hath been abolished,¹ had remained still: Yet is not M. Harding able out of this place precisely, and undoubtedly to prove his Private Mass. For if a man should say, it may possibly be, that these Hermits did not Minister severally each man to him self alone,² but one of them unto the rest of the Hermits dwelling in the wilderness, as it appeareth diversely, they had times to meet, and to pray together: Or that the householders in Egypt, and Alexandria, Ministered not only to them selves, but also to their whole several families, as it is written of Hippolytus Martyr, that being a lay man, he received the Communion of Justinus being a Priest, and bare it home, and Ministered the same to his Wife, his Children, and his Servants: If a man would thus say, perhaps M. Harding would better bethink him self of his Conclusions. This sense may seem to stand very well with S. Basiles words, notwithstanding M. Harding in his Translation into English hath openly falsified the same. For whereas it is written in the Greek, and so likewise in the Latin,³ They receive of them selves, Which may well be understanded, that one of them received of an other for want of a Priest, he hath otherwise wrested it to come to his tune, and hath turned it thus: They do Communicate with themselves alone: Wherein all be it I will not greatly strive, yet neither this word Alone, nor these words with them selves, can be found either in the Greek, or in the Latin.

But be it that bothe the Reason were good, and the Custome that longe sithence hath béen abolished,¹ had remained still: Yet is not M. Hardinge hable out of this place precisely, and vndoubtedly to proue his Priuate Masse. For if a man shoulde say, it may possibly be, that these Eremites did not Minister seuerally eche man to him selfe alone,² but one of them vnto ye reast of the Eremites dwellynge in the wildernesse, as it appeareth diuersely, they had times to méete, and to pray togeather: Or that the householders in Egypte, and Alexandria, Ministred not onely to them selues, but also to their whole seueral families, as it is written of Hippolytus Martyr, that beinge a lay man, he receiued the Communion of Iustinus beynge a Prieste, and bare it home, and Ministred the same to his Wife, his Children, and his Seruauntes: If a man woulde thus say, perhappes M. Hardinge woulde better bethinke him selfe of his Conclusions. This sense may seeme to stande very wel with S. Basiles woordes, notwithstandinge M. Hardinge in his Translation into Englishe hath openly falsified the same. For whereas it is written in the Greeke, and so likewise in the Latine,³ They receiue of them selues, Whiche may wel be vnderstanded, that one of them receiued of an other for wante of a Prieste, he hath otherwise wreasted it to come to his tune, and hath turned it thus: They doo Communicate with themselues alone: Wherein al be it I wil not greately striue, yet neither this woorde Alone, nor these woordes with them selues, can be founde either in the Gréeke, or in the Latine.

1Cyprian. ad Pompeium contra Epistol.
2Stephani.
3[Greek or Hebrew]〈non-Latin alphabet〉